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	<title>Comments on: Has Apple met its match in Rogers?</title>
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		<title>By: NotHolly</title>
		<link>http://mymacinations.com/2008/02/04/has-apple-met-its-match-in-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-215</link>
		<dc:creator>NotHolly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:08:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Australia the dominant telco is Telstra, with Virgin, 3 (Hutchison), Optus (SingTel) &amp; Vodafone being the others majors.  CDMA is all but gone - replaced by tri-band UMTS called 3G or NextG.  NextG wireless modems run to 8Mb d/load, so there&#039;s a mad scramble to UMTS from all players.  My NextG Palm750 downloads data at 385Kb and streams video, altho $$$ expensive .  GSM is universal but slooooow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Australia the dominant telco is Telstra, with Virgin, 3 (Hutchison), Optus (SingTel) &amp; Vodafone being the others majors.  CDMA is all but gone &#8211; replaced by tri-band UMTS called 3G or NextG.  NextG wireless modems run to 8Mb d/load, so there&#8217;s a mad scramble to UMTS from all players.  My NextG Palm750 downloads data at 385Kb and streams video, altho $$$ expensive .  GSM is universal but slooooow.</p>
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		<title>By: JFP</title>
		<link>http://mymacinations.com/2008/02/04/has-apple-met-its-match-in-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-186</link>
		<dc:creator>JFP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2008 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hum....

If you think Rodger is bad...

In Quebec(I cannot talk for the other provinces),Telus is the worst cell company.Their saleperson routinely mislead and lies to get customer. Their reception and coverage is at best so-so. They play a lot with their billing.If you call customer service to ask the right question, you usually do not get the right response.And the Collection company is never far...

If the iPhone gets on the Telus network, you are better off without it....


JFP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hum&#8230;.</p>
<p>If you think Rodger is bad&#8230;</p>
<p>In Quebec(I cannot talk for the other provinces),Telus is the worst cell company.Their saleperson routinely mislead and lies to get customer. Their reception and coverage is at best so-so. They play a lot with their billing.If you call customer service to ask the right question, you usually do not get the right response.And the Collection company is never far&#8230;</p>
<p>If the iPhone gets on the Telus network, you are better off without it&#8230;.</p>
<p>JFP</p>
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		<title>By: Lazeez</title>
		<link>http://mymacinations.com/2008/02/04/has-apple-met-its-match-in-rogers/comment-page-1/#comment-176</link>
		<dc:creator>Lazeez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Feb 2008 06:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With regards to the iPhone, I believe Rogers will be as arrogant as it&#039;s ever been.

When there is no competition, companies never, ever do simply &quot;what&#039;s good for their customers&quot;, they always, always do what makes them the most money.

I&#039;m sure that Rogers, just like Verizon before them in the US, see no need whatsoever to lower their data rates and give a share of their income to Apple.

Their recently publicized $20 data plan doesn&#039;t involve the iPhone or any browser that&#039;s not pre-approved by Rogers. They&#039;re basically approving WAP browsers.

If you make the calculations, what&#039;s the maximum amount of data that could be transferred with WAP browsing per month?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regards to the iPhone, I believe Rogers will be as arrogant as it&#8217;s ever been.</p>
<p>When there is no competition, companies never, ever do simply &#8220;what&#8217;s good for their customers&#8221;, they always, always do what makes them the most money.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure that Rogers, just like Verizon before them in the US, see no need whatsoever to lower their data rates and give a share of their income to Apple.</p>
<p>Their recently publicized $20 data plan doesn&#8217;t involve the iPhone or any browser that&#8217;s not pre-approved by Rogers. They&#8217;re basically approving WAP browsers.</p>
<p>If you make the calculations, what&#8217;s the maximum amount of data that could be transferred with WAP browsing per month?</p>
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		<title>By: 11thIndian</title>
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		<dc:creator>11thIndian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 23:51:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I share your frustration.  A friend of mine and I were discussing today a &quot;Deadline&quot; point, at which we&#039;d go across the boarder and buy phones to unlock here.

I hate to do this, both for the inconvenience and because you&#039;re not getting everything that the iPhone can be.  PLUS you have to wait after every update for a reliable hack.  But my patience is quickly waning, and knowing just how many people in Canada are already using it eases my worries about going the &quot;unlegal&quot; route.

Personally, I&#039;m of the opinion that there has to be a &quot;blink&quot; point for Rogers.  Right now, they&#039;re the only game in town, and looking at just how many iPhones are estimated to already be on the Rogers network is a clear indication of the demand for the product in Canada.  The real win for Rogers is the &quot;new&quot; customers like me they&#039;ll be grabbing from Telus or Bell.  But what happens if they wait too long?  What happens if Telus moves on it&#039;s rumored intention to move to GSM, or if another new company pops up after the forthcoming bandwidth auction.  Can Rogers really afford to wait too long and loose not only all the potential customers that a legal release of the iPhone would bring, but their existing iPhone customers who will flee for better data rates and the back-end for visual voicemail, PLUS all the Rogers customers who&#039;ve been told that Rogers would eventually be getting the iPhone and have just been hanging on &#039;til then...

Recent months have shown that data rates in Canada ARE coming down.  Rogers can either think short-term and hold onto their existing rates, lose out on the iPhone, and take a thrashing in the public&#039;s mind; OR they can finally recognize the curve that&#039;s coming, sign a deal with Apple and lower their data rates to at least those offered by other Canadian networks.

Incidentally, the date I came up with was in early May.  My birthday.  If there&#039;s no clear signal of an iPhone release by that point.  I&#039;m heading to Buffalo!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I share your frustration.  A friend of mine and I were discussing today a &#8220;Deadline&#8221; point, at which we&#8217;d go across the boarder and buy phones to unlock here.</p>
<p>I hate to do this, both for the inconvenience and because you&#8217;re not getting everything that the iPhone can be.  PLUS you have to wait after every update for a reliable hack.  But my patience is quickly waning, and knowing just how many people in Canada are already using it eases my worries about going the &#8220;unlegal&#8221; route.</p>
<p>Personally, I&#8217;m of the opinion that there has to be a &#8220;blink&#8221; point for Rogers.  Right now, they&#8217;re the only game in town, and looking at just how many iPhones are estimated to already be on the Rogers network is a clear indication of the demand for the product in Canada.  The real win for Rogers is the &#8220;new&#8221; customers like me they&#8217;ll be grabbing from Telus or Bell.  But what happens if they wait too long?  What happens if Telus moves on it&#8217;s rumored intention to move to GSM, or if another new company pops up after the forthcoming bandwidth auction.  Can Rogers really afford to wait too long and loose not only all the potential customers that a legal release of the iPhone would bring, but their existing iPhone customers who will flee for better data rates and the back-end for visual voicemail, PLUS all the Rogers customers who&#8217;ve been told that Rogers would eventually be getting the iPhone and have just been hanging on &#8217;til then&#8230;</p>
<p>Recent months have shown that data rates in Canada ARE coming down.  Rogers can either think short-term and hold onto their existing rates, lose out on the iPhone, and take a thrashing in the public&#8217;s mind; OR they can finally recognize the curve that&#8217;s coming, sign a deal with Apple and lower their data rates to at least those offered by other Canadian networks.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the date I came up with was in early May.  My birthday.  If there&#8217;s no clear signal of an iPhone release by that point.  I&#8217;m heading to Buffalo!</p>
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